why do folks think that there will be an AAW version of the type 26? OK so it's the maker's blurb but aspects of the radar's performance suggest it's by no means the basket case that certain posters would like us to believe. It's a previous generation mechanically scanned array. Without communications, all I control is my desk, and that is not a very lethal weapon.". I expect that there will be a new design for AAW destroyer, which will have learned from the type 45/26 and 31e, but it will be its own design not a type 26 derivative, It depends on some combination of how technology has moved on, how cash strapped we are at the time, and whether we are still determined to specify high-end capabilities at the expense of numbers. They buy t26 frigate in return we buy CEAFAR. Ceafar consists of 30cm by 30cm "tiles" each made up of 64 miniature, solid-state transmitters and receivers -- a so-called electronically scanned Phased Array Radar with no moving parts. Nothing against the Aussies or this radar – just think we should develop Sampson and Artisan unless I am missing something here. This can only be about the type 26 programme. If an off-the-shelf CEAFAR is cheaper than developing Sampson I can see MoD buying it for an AAW Type 26 variant.

Absolutely correct.

Maybe they are thinking Artisan for the type31 ( pulled from the 23s) and a study on CEFAR being fitted to the 26s, it would seem a strange idea but but if the OZ buy 26s with CEFAR you would imagine there would be some savings around a larger build with commonality.

HMS Oceon, HMS Bulwark, HMS QE are all fitted with it also. I’m with the Minister on this. I like the idea of sharing systems with Australia, why not? if the design was entering service now and could have been loaned or displayed to the Australians, then i’m Sure it would have had a better chance…. We must be cautious. Artisan isn't in the same class as any of those radars. What ships will make up the new British Carrier Strike Group?

09 Dec 2008. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Alongside Australian Defence Minister Pyne, Harriet Baldwin announced the intention to look at the feasibility of fitting the Australian radar on future British warships. It will be a single inflatable dinghy. On Wednesday 4 October, the Australian government announced the selection of Lockheed Martin AEGIS combat management system for the Royal Australian Navy’s (RAN) nine Future Frigates (SEA 5000). The combination of the microwave tile and the Digital Beam Forming (DBF) backend provides a modular, programmable and scalable solution. A great outcome of last week’s dialogue, announced today, is the possibility of the cutting edge Australian CEA radars being used for the future UK Warships. I would like to see evidence for your claim, http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/03/05/anzac-ships-field-cutting-edge-defences, To be honest, I just don’t see the type 26 winning the contract…. advanced anti-ship missile defence capability, scalable to support short and long range needs, high level of performance in littoral and open ocean environments, rapid response to multiple simultaneous and stressing threats, adaptable to changing operational requirements, simultaneous 3D Volume and Surface Surveillance, international collaborative high technology project established between the US and Australian Departments of Defence. If we sell Type 26 to Canada they will likely specify a european radar not Artisan.

Except for Sea Giraffe They all scan horizontal mechanically and vertically is electronic. If we do get any frigate orders for either Type 26 or Type 31 from the navies of Canada, Brazil, Columbia etc they will probably spec a European radar. I suspect the RN will be the last navy outside the third world to have deployed such a system on a new-build large warship, possibly by more than a decade. That is not the same as being fully mechanically scanned azimuthally.



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