The land in Normandy was a huge improvement on the old farmlands in Norway. In his book Surnames of Ireland, Irish historian Edward MacLysaght makes a distinction between Hiberno-Norman and Anglo-Norman surnames.
My father’s mother’s maiden name is Jordan. le Gros or later translation, "le Gras" (anglicized "Grace"). It is one of our family mysteries.
Brendan Bradshaw, in his study of the poetry of late-sixteenth century Tír Chónaill, points out that the Normans were not referred to there as Seanghaill ("Old Foreigners") but rather as Fionnghaill and Dubhghaill. Contact me on Facebook tornadojball or it’s tornado jball. They set sail in October and met the English army at Hastings on the 14th of October, 1066.
Just saw; that the Prendergasts were listed.
In reply to Katherine’s comments above re the De Burgh name being in her family.
Norman naming conventions were typically the same as many Irish naming conventions – only derived from French.
My surname is Hussey, which is also Norman, originally De Hose, De Huse and other spellings. Want to visit their home(which is still there) and the graveyard where they are buried. Expansion Beyond Normandy.
See Vincent Carey, 'Bi-lingualism and identity formation in sixteenth-century Ireland' in Hiram Morgan (ed. From the 12th century onwards, a group of Normans invaded and settled in Gaelic Ireland. My grandfather was Francis Eugene day and from Ireland.
The poet Edmund Spenser was one of the chief advocates of this view. Four generations later, Constantine (Consaidín) O’Brien, bishop of Killaloe, was the source of the Mac Consaidín line, the Considines. Hi Nicole, Thanks for getting in touch and sharing the surname in your family. Around this time, a man called Harald Finehair was asserting himself as the first true King of Norway. Most were eventually pardoned after paying fines of up to 100 pounds, a very large sum for the time. I can’t find any Loundagins in Ireland. Woot! The following is a list of Hiberno-Norman surnames, many of them unique to Ireland. [6], Beyond the Pale, the term 'English', if and when it was applied, referred to a thin layer of landowners and nobility, who ruled over Gaelic Irish freeholders and tenants.
Over the next forty years, this band of Vikings carried out raids from this new base – and sent a clear message to the local rulers that they saw this territory as their new home. Irish Norman Surnames of Your Irish Heritage. His boats, knights, warhorses, archers and soldiers numbered in their thousands. The annals of Ireland make a distinction between Gaill and Sasanaigh. De Burgh is one of our family names and has passed down as a male middle name.
He argued in a lecture to the Mícheál Ó Cléirigh Institute in University College, Dublin that the poets referred in that way to hibernicised people of Norman stock in order to grant them a longer vintage in Ireland than the (Fionnghaill meaning "fair-haired Foreigners", i.e. He argued in A View on the Present State of Ireland (1595) that a failure to conquer Ireland fully in the past had led previous generations of English settlers to become corrupted by the native Irish culture. Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 00:00.
Re De Burgh When they got to Ireland, they were not using true hereditary surnames.
Nevertheless, despite their formation of an Irish government in Confederate Ireland, the Old English identity was still an important division within the Irish Roman Catholic community. We were always told that we were related to Vikings and Normans. (King Rollo). Can you shed any light on the Norman name becoming a surname?
[2] Many of the Old English were dispossessed in the political and religious conflicts of the 16th and 17th centuries, largely due to their continued adherence to the Roman Catholic religion. The login page will open in a new tab. Over the next one hundred and fifty years, the Normans settled down with their new neighbours.
Despite these efforts, by 1515, one official lamented, that "all the common people of the said half counties" [of The Pale] "that obeyeth the King's laws, for the most part be of Irish birth, of Irish habit, and of Irish language.
Kerry. This sums up the fundamental difference between "Queen's English Rebels" and the Loyal Lieges. The political response of the Old English community was to appeal directly to the King of Ireland in England, over the heads of his representatives in Dublin, effectively meaning that they had to appeal to their sovereign in his role as King of England, a necessity which further disgruntled them. My greatest hope is to someday be able to get to Ireland to visit all of our family there. The name Hosey is also connected. As a result, those loyal to Catholicism attempted to replace the distinction between "Norman" and "Gaelic Irish" under the new denominator of Irish Catholic by 1700, as they were both barred from positions of wealth and power by the so-called New English settlers, who became known as the Protestant Ascendancy. “Irish” will do. I had no idea until just recently that we were descended from Norman-Irish nobility. The former were split into Fionnghaill or Dubhghaill, depending upon how much the poet wished to flatter his patron.[13]. Cardinal John D’Alton was a cousin of my Grandfather.
I’m not aware of that name in Ireland with the spelling Klein Connie. Some members of the Old English who had thus gained membership in the Irish Ascendancy even became adherents of the cause of Irish independence.